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I mentioned how a discussion on the Jane Siberry list ended up with me noodling towards a tarot deck of non-negative integers. Which I dug up. But really it's more straight numerology, since it's not apparent what would work for suits, and the major arcana have too many candidates. (I lean towards mathematical constants, but they get pretty heavy-handed; I mean, what are you going to do with Feigenbaum's number?)

0: creation. void; thanatos. the null set is the ground of number.

1: unity. gnosis; agape; the circle.
2: balance. analysis; eros; tension.
3: stability. synthesis; resolution.

4: iteration. a composite number, a perfect square.
5: asymmetry. phi, r pentomino, 5/4 rhythm.
6: complexity. analysis/synthesis; a non-square composite.
7: order in chaos.
8: symmetry, the crystal. a cube. J.S. Bach; total internal reflection.
9: ?
10: the hands. and the work of the hands. chance; historical contingency; the fall from Platonic heaven.

(EDIT: man. I can't seem to write an HTML table that doesn't screw up the friends page in one way or other.)

i'm 3

Date: 2003-05-15 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] georgejas.livejournal.com
Hey, this is pretty crazy. Why is 9 a question mark? I agree the meanings seem kind of ... um ... expected, but it's a cool idea. How high does the list go?

Re: i'm 3

Date: 2003-05-16 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eub.livejournal.com
How high can you fill it in? I was starting to poop out (see 9).

my feelings about 9

Date: 2003-05-15 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatmathchick.livejournal.com
9: duality, yin and yang, multiple interpretation. universality.

I think of 9 in particular in many different ways. Nine is the first odd non-prime, the first odd square. Seems to have some other useful interpretations as well. Also plays an important role because we have a base 10 number system, i.e. "checking by nines", sum of the digits of n*9 = 9.

I'm not so clear on why 8 is total internal reflection.

Re: my feelings about 9

Date: 2003-05-16 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eub.livejournal.com
Thanks! I'm personally failing to pick up on the yin and the yang in the nine. Ten-minus-one, I can see that...

Eight spoke to me, man, it just spoke to me.

Date: 2003-05-16 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marzipan-pig.livejournal.com
dear eli

will you marry me?

I rarely propose but jane siberry AND mbv loveless in the SAME post?

I know you probably want to be loved for the numbers part of this post but some of us can see more than that.

ps

violent femmes say 8 8 8 for a lost god 9 9 I forget what 9 is for so you're in agreement there
never mind, got them reversed

Date: 2003-05-16 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eub.livejournal.com
Good heavens I will have to start with the spamming right away. Aftershave, Siberry/MBV blend. "Lonely no more! The better sort of people will flock to you."

p.s.

If Man is Five,
if man is five,
if man is five,
Then the Devil is Six,
then the Devil is six,
then the Devil is six,
(then the devil is six):
And If The Devil Is Six,
then GOD IS SEVEN,
then GOD IS SEVEN,
then GOD IS SEVEN.

Date: 2003-05-17 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marzipan-pig.livejournal.com
*swoon*

here`s another thing
that I noticed last night
whe he kissed me over there
he usually kissed me over here, too

I must have known it in my heart
and with my inner sense of art
because when I kiss him over there
I never kiss him over here

it`s the way of the world
people do it everywhere
if you`re going to do it over here
then usually they do it over there too

symmetry is the way things have to be
symmetry is the way things have to be

or say you`re at a table
and you have your forks and knives
do you move them around
`til you get them just right?
(this is while you`re talking to someone)

Date: 2003-05-17 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eub.livejournal.com
I haven't listened to that album for a long while.

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